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Hello and welcome to the podcast. Today I want us to today, I want to give you guys updates on a series of trainings that initially was advertised for the 12th of January until the 23rd of January 2026. But the start details got pushed back by one week. So we're going to be starting on January the 19th and it's going to run until about the 30th or so or 31st, I can't remember. It's a 10 day training. So I'm going to give you some updates about that.
And then most importantly, I'm going to give you guys reasons why you shouldn't give money to people that you do not trust. Because in talking to people who want to be a part of this program, you remember that when we're advertising it online and when I started talking about it seriously on the podcast, I made a big deal about saying I want to be in touch with every single person personally before I collect your money.
Because yes, I want to make money, but I'm not a charlatan. Now, the whole point of the interview stage was to make sure that not only do I know who you are and what you're trying to achieve with the training, I want to be able to be sure and have full confidence that if we collected your money, that's me and my partners will be able to deliver. And make sure that at the end of the day, you will find some business growth, some sales growth with the things that we discuss during the training.
And of course, you know, some of you have been listening to the podcast for months, maybe even years. I saw some of you trust me, that's not a big deal. But then some people who are just discovering me for the first time, and for some of them, that trust step was a little bit too steep. Now most other sales trainers will start giving you techniques and tips and tricks if you're in this situation on what to do, on how to get that person to pay the money, how to overcome that trust deficit.
But if you're learning from me, there is no such thing as overcoming a trust deficit. When people don't trust you because they don't know you, they don't like you, they don't trust you, they don't, you know, whatever. There is a deficit that has to be dealt with. And if you come up with some smooth talking things, you talk somebody through you Bamzoo the person, you wind them, you collect the money, you'll be creating problems for yourself in the future.
In the wedding photography space. It's a problem that I ran into early on and I'm sure some of you can relate to this as well. I remember talking to couples and getting this sense in the pit of my belly that this girl, she claims that she likes my style, but I'm suspecting she likes a different kind of a different style of photography. That was this particular babe who's based in KD in Kaduna. We finished talking. Based on the things she was saying and based on the things that she was showing me, I knew that Kai, this girl, thinks she likes my style of photography,
but actually she prefers something else. But back then I was younger and I was broke and I was naive. So I collected the money. We went to KD, went to Katuna. After everything or more Yawa gas, there was quarrel up and down. I made a judgement call and I made the wrong call. If you've been in this situation before, then you know exactly what it is that I'm saying. This is one of the reasons why if you're stuck in this kind of situation and it becomes clear that really the person doesn't trust you or the person doesn't think you can deliver on the results, then it is not by force, by fire.
It is not do or die. My own opinion, don't risk it. Don't collect that money. I risk that quarrel. We'll start later on because even if there's a shred of doubt, even if the person has one small iota of doubt in you, in your capabilities, in what you preach, what you teach, and you collect that money, it is going to affect outcomes. So there are some people that I was talking to that I had to tell them up front that, look,
you know what? Yeah, I get it. They're also smooth talking guys about the Internet. You don't know me from Jack. So therefore you're afraid you don't have the power with your money. It makes perfectly good sense. And my advice to you is don't. Don't park with your money because you don't know me. You don't trust me. Here's a link to my podcast. Keep on listening. The benefit of dealing with me is whether you give me money or not, you will always get value from me either in the page sessions or either from subscribing to the podcast.
So I told her, don't. Here's a link to the podcast. Relax, just be listening you. After a while you feel as if, OK, this guy's legit, we can move. If you never get to that point where you feel as if this guy's legit, then no problem freed. But you can be learning here for free until you find somebody who you think is legit. I can help you get to the promised land, then you move. So I told her, Nah, don't drop that money.
In fact, when you're dealing with boys online, don't be dropping money. If there's anything that is making you feel as if you know there might be comma in the future, there might be question mark. So don't drop money. And this is my advice to you, those of you listening to this podcast, you like me, you like what I stand for, you like what I represent, you like the frameworks I talk about. But if you're talking to me on the phone or we see in person and you have at that point where you're thinking, I'm not sure about this, I'm not sure about this, let's talk about it, let's talk.
But if by the time we talk, you're not convinced, it's not a problem. It's not do or die, just let it go. You'll be all right. It's not as if if you don't give me money on, I'm not your coach, I'm not your consultant. It's not as if you know, you miss out on your divine blessing, the one that is your own that will come to you. So don't worry, it's no big deal anyway. So yes, the program has been delayed by one week and we're going to start in two days on Monday the 19th.
By the time we're done, there's going to be another cohort. I'll let you guys know about that as time goes on. But I had this really interesting conversation with someone else who is a listener of the podcast. And he wanted to know if there were any guarantees that if he spends money on the training, is he going to get any guaranteed returns? If you drop money, is he going to make money back and how much? And that's also another interesting conversation that I
need to had. I need to have. Sorry, I needed to have Abby. OK, forgive me. Present tense, past tense. Oh, but either way, I hope I've been able to stress the first point very clear. It's not just me. Whoever it is you're dealing with, you don't trust the person. Do not drop that money. Don't only drop money when you trust the person and you think, OK, this guy's legit. And this is the person that will help me get to the promised land.
Speaking of the promised land, I had to tell this guy, Now you know what? Yeah, it makes sense. They're asking me this question, What are the guarantees? But then I had to tell him what I've told every single client that I've worked with, particularly people that I worked with in 2024-2025, because that's why I started getting this guarantee question. I had to tell them, I look, I can't guarantee you nothing. I repeat, and I'm saying it with my forecast, I cannot guarantee you nothing because whether you achieve results or not does not depend on me.
It depends on you. You who is listening to the podcast right now or you who is on the other end of the negotiating table, The results will depend on you. The best I can do is to tell you, OK, based on all we discussed so far, I understand that this is the situation. So these are my recommendations of what we need to move forward. And I will tell you, it'll be put in writing and then I'll chase you. I'll follow you up.
I'll call you that. I'll send you a message, I'll harass you. But if at the end of the day, you don't do what it is they're supposed to do, what do you expect me to do? You want me to reach into your own phone? I start making calls on your own behalf. I'll be, I'll drive to your customers places. I start negotiating deals on your own behalf. That's not how it works. And believe me, even if you want me to do that, I'll be collecting serious money from you.
If you want me to be making your own calls, I'll be going for your own meetings. No problem. I wouldn't like that kind of work. Let's negotiate some serious, serious money. But whether you are going to get results does not depend on me. It depends on you. And listen carefully. It doesn't matter who it is you're talking to, even if you're talking to by Tracy and Tony Robbins, it doesn't matter the wisdom that they spit, if you do not apply, if you do not execute, you will not get any returns on it.
So for those of you who are going to work with me in the future, you know, because you listen to the podcast and you like my flow, that is going to be the answer to the question. Sorry, one moment. OK, I'm back. Sorry about that. I had to pause the recording a little and then change location. And that's because I'm making today's recording at home. For those of you who've been listening to the podcast for any length of time, you know, you're not surprised because you know that I just record this, I
record the podcast that on the go Then, of course, this weekend and you know, kids are home, wifey is home. So I had to change location basically. Oh, by the way, my name is Tava Shima Ayedin. I'm the host of the podcast. I am a former lawyer turned business consultant. And if you like this also things that we talk about over here on the show sales marketing ish, then subscribe on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, or any player of your choice.
And if you'd love to connect with me, you can call, you can send me a text message or you can send me a WhatsApp message. If you have any questions, any comments, any queries, or if you'd love for us to collaborate on any projects so you can call on 08064662140. So before I ran off, I think I'll tell you guys about how like there's no guarantee because the guarantee is you. The best thing I can do is to ask you questions, try to figure out what the problem is, make an informed diagnosis, and then I
make a prescription. So excuse me and I tell you, this is what we need to do next. This is how I think we ought to go about it. Whether you do it is entirely up to you. So when a certain person asked me what are the guarantees, I told him, look, there's no guarantees. The guarantees is you. But this is what we're going to do. I already let you know ahead of time what the curriculum for this 10 day training is going to be.
So let's have a look at it. Let me know the particular places where you feel nervous and then collect jointly. Let us decide on the areas that we will have to stress so that by the time we double down, bring you closer to revenue. The guy said OK. I said cool, why are you OK to talk? The guy said tomorrow, no problem. The time came and then we spoke and this is what I had sent the guy in December when we first started talking.
So of course, I told him that this was not a passive webinar because you know, you guys are used to webinars, whether paid or free. You when you sit down, somebody will bring our PowerPoint. People watch PowerPoint and then you end something, then do not give all of your certificate. Nah, nothing with me is passive, be ready to work. I repeat, nothing with me is passive, be ready to work. Let me say it one more time, nothing with me is passive, be ready to work.
You are paid me money. I'll do my best according to my conscience. I'll tell you what needs to be done and I'll chase you, but at the end of the day, I cannot pull the trigger for you. I cannot make the phone call for you. I cannot go and visit the chief for you. I cannot go and talk to your uncle for you. The rest is up to you. So the first module that I sent to the guy, what we're going to start discussing from the 19th of January up until the 31st is we're going to try and remove mental roadblocks, psychological roadblocks when it comes to selling because Nigerians have too many bad ideas when it comes to sales.
We believe as if you know, Nigerians are money conscious, they do the price. Nigerian people don't like value, Nigerian people are disrespectful, Nigerian people are rude. Nigeria, they do Niger who they do like this and they do like that blah, blah, blah. Now the reason why we have to address all these psychological roadblocks is because they affected the way that we sell. And I've spoken about the sales Rep of my former client who in her heart of heart, she believed that 40 million naira is expensive and lots of people cannot pay for 40 million naira solar installations in their houses.
Now, whether we like it or not, because yes, 40 million actually is quite a good chunk of change, we don't sell. From our perspective, it's not about us. It's about the other people and it's about what they find valuable. And I tried my best, but unfortunately I couldn't crack it into her skull and let her know that yes, for you, let's call her being paid, that's not her real name in order to crack her skull and tell her I've been paid for you and for me, yes, 40
M is, is big money because you give me 40 M right now. Yes, I will solve one or two things in my life. But there are some people that 40 million is not a problem. They will look at your proposal. They'll look at every, every. You have the conversation. OK, If I give you this 40 M, you guarantee me 24 hours. Hours of light you will carry. You carry AC, you will carry iron, you will carry microwave. You will carry this.
Then they will stroke you a check straight. It's not about you. Huh? Me. I need to tell her, but she never got it. Being paid 40K40M is good money. You and I will smile. Well, you did give us 40 M. But for some people, 40 M is change or even if the 40 M is plenty of money, still it is money that they want to spend because they think that it is worth it. This is the way I explained it to my wife when me and my when we had our first born, we the this thing that used to carry baby, this thing used to carry them on your back.
I don't know what it's called. You know that strap, that slink, You know what that thing is called now? We bought ours from Mamas and Papas in the UK. There are some people in Niger who they, this is rest No, I say restaurant also called pharmacy, pharmacy chain H Medics, H Medics, They had this sling there that they were selling. I think they were selling for like 5K or 75. So that's what some people who are buying. Then there's some people who they will say hey 75, what am I
spending 75 for that my mother used wrapper and she backed me. I will use wrapper and yes, I've seen it. Even in 2026, there are people who still use wrapper to back their baby in Abuja, I've seen it maybe in Lagos. You know people are more fashion conscious in Lagos so you know they won't do that. But in Makudi over the Christmas, I saw it and in Abuja I saw it. There are not many but the people who still use wrapper to back their their children.
So this I explained it to my wife, for some people to spend that 5K or that 75 to buy something to back your baby is on head of it doesn't make sense is overpriced is like what are you wasting money for not to Now talk of people like me and my wife who bought our own from Mamas and Papas in UK and we bought it in pounds. I don't want to say how much pounds it is that we spend because some of you do the calculation and you now start thinking that me and wiki are like 5 and 6 that we wrote.
No, no, be like that as it was a long time ago. Currency rate was different and you know, people value different things. We knew that it was expensive, but that's what we wanted Mamas and Papas. So for our first born, we keep it up nicely. Mamas and Papas. We even bought some stuff baby gap. You know when you're having your first child now the two will be sweeten you. So I can't explain when you're there, you understand there's a way that your body will just be sweet, sweet, sweet.
And so you spend on some things. So it's like that I couldn't hear being paid to understand and some of us have too many hang ups and those hang ups limit the way that we sell. So if you're like being paid and you think 40 million is big Nigerians don't like quality Nigerians, their two day price, it will affect how you sell solar and inverter systems that cost 20304050 and above. So we need to get these mental things out of the way.
So I was telling this guy now, OK, you know what, since we're looking at close to revenue, let's ignore all this psychological stuff for now. So let's leave module one and let's move on to module 2. Now module is about lead management. For those of you who are regular listeners, you know that a lead is somebody who has done something objective, who has raised their hand, who has carried out one action or the other to show that they might be interested in our products or our services.
When you see those people, follow them, address them, chase them, you're getting close to money. So I told this guy, you're nervous about making money from this training, right? So that means module 2 lead management. That is what we need to pay attention to. And so I asked the guy, what do you do for leads? How do you get leads? How do you get business people? Sorry, how do you get potential customers to raise their hands?
No matter what business it is that you do, you have to do something to get people to raise their hands to show that they might be interested. So for those of you who run Neighborhood Corner Shop, like one of my neighbors, what she did was. As she was launching her shop, she went to go and print this. You know, these people, POS people, those signs that they print they just has in bold in red POS here. She went to go and print those kind of banners.
But for hire was for her shop coming soon, launching soon, blah, blah blah stores. So, so, so block this, that, that, that, that, that, so, so, so, so estate. And she put it at all the junctions in the estate. My estate is a small estate, but you put it on the junction so that as you are approaching your street, as you are turning, you see the signboard. You make the next turn, you see the signboard, you make another turn, you see the signboard.
That's what she did. Now, people who see that signboard, some of them will drive to the store. She is getting people to do something objective, something that you can see, something that you can verify, something that is. You understand what I'm saying? That is called lead generation. Some people will see that signboard but they won't go, but they will carry the WhatsApp number on the signboard. Then they will send WhatsApp message to the business line.
That is lead generation. The person has done something on their own to show that they might be interested in your product, in your service. In this case, in this brand new shop that you're opening. We should all be doing lead generation for our businesses. So before we even go to the whole thing of lead management, lead management just means all these people now that have shown their hand, they have come to the shop, they have entered your DM, they have sent you WhatsApp,
they have sent you e-mail or whatever it is. How do you start this process? When do you call them up? When do you visit them? When do you reply to the e-mail? When do you reply to, you know, whatever? How do you start the conversation? How do you follow up? What's your cadence? How you going to follow them? Is he close marking? Is he every day? Is he every two, two days? Are you going to be giving them space? You know, all these questions that we ask ourselves when we have customers and we're trying to close the sale.
So I told the guy before we get to lead management, how do you generate leads? The guy said two ways, online and offline. By the way, that's pretty good. We should all be doing online and offline. So me this podcast, what I'm doing, this is offline. Well, sorry, not offline, online in a way, let's call this one online because the Internet. So I told him Internet, online, social media, we won't discuss that now because lead generation on social media is medium to long term.
It's not short term. There's nothing that you post today on Monday that will bring you business on Friday or social media. No, it takes a long time to generate no like and trust on social media. However, if you run an advertisement, yes, OK, that's a different thing. You can advertise today and start getting enquiries tomorrow, but social media on its own, organic social media does not work in the short term. It is a medium to long term.
So in other words, all the good plans that you have for your Instagram account for 2026, all these wonderful ideas they are trying to do, just give yourself like, you know, three months, six months, one year before it starts any results. Don't think there's something you post on February 1st and then February 7th you're now making money. Doesn't work like that. So he told me that there are people that he talks to. I said good, now for the people that you talk to are going to come up with a prospecting list.
A prospecting list is just a list of people who might be interested in your product or service so that you can approach them. So I told him where, where's your prospecting list? He said, well, he doesn't have a list like that, but he has three people. Now he knows that he talks to business will come out of it and say good, we have three people. But I told him, you know what, in order for this thing to make sense, well, we can't do 3.
Because the problem with three is this. Like Brian Tracy says, not everybody wants what you have, not everybody needs what you have, not everybody can afford what you have. I repeat, not everybody wants what you have. Not everybody needs what you have, not everybody can afford what you have. If you only have three people on that list, it is possible that all three of them, they like it, but they no get money. You don't have money, then what are we doing?
You can't squeeze blood out of a stone. You can't or can be that they're paid off, seriously paid off. What do you think what you're selling? There's no important in that case, there is nothing that you can do. So that is why at the very least I tell people 10 that list, I beg, let us see 10. Let us start with 10 because you only have three and then you reach out to three and only three click, you now be demoralized and then we're back at 0 but have 10.
Any which way, at least we should get one person who is interested. So I told him at least 10. He said no problem. Then we started looking at other course modules that we're going to do in the training. That's from January 19th or Monday. So there's a module on vocal authority using your voice over the phone. I told him let's ignore our first. Then there's part of the module where we're going to do discovery. And discovery is how you ask people questions, how you handle the conversation.
So you try and figure out who the person is. You try and figure out what the problems are, or you try and figure out the visions that they're trying to achieve. Because this guy, what he does is he does St. wear. And I told him, you don't just show up to somebody and then you start trying to sell them Ankara St. wear when you don't know who they are, when you don't know what's up. Now for me, if you only sell me Ankara St. wear good because I
like that kind of thing. But then there's some boys like why would they be wearing a car? So you need to know who you are talking to. What do they want? What is their taste? What is their style? What are they trying to do? What are they trying to achieve with this gamut? Is it father in law's 70th birthday anniversary? And so they're trying to show up, you know, uncle and everybody look cool or I don't know, is he showing you see a content creator and he wants to get, you know, edgy St. wear so that he can look correct, you know, in his videos or whatever.
Anyway, don't mind me. I'm just trying to come up with different scenarios, but you get the point. You need to know who you're talking to, what it is that they like, what it is that they don't like, what they're trying to achieve, what they're trying to run away from. Before you say Ankara St. wear is for you, or before you say cotton St. wear is for you, or before you say linen St. wear is for you, or before you say we will design it in black and purple or orange and brown.
So discovery an important part. So for him, we agreed during the discovery module, we'll have to pay attention to that because it will help you to make an effective presentation or an effective proposal. Sometimes, in fact, most of the times, the reason why a proposal is not hitting is because you did not do discovery. There's somebody that I'm talking to based in the East. They sell household electronics and there's one of their sales people who believes that Thermocool is the best kind of fridge.
So you come in there, the person will walk up to you, and as far as that person is concerned, Thermo Cool is the best fridge that will try and sell you Thermo Cool. You might make an A very, very beautiful presentation about why Thermo Cool is the best fridge to buy. But if you need ask the person what is their budget, what they want, what they need it for, where they live, do they have inverter, a busy generator or is it NEPA or what are they trying to achieve?
How do you know that you're making the right proposal? How do you know that you're making the right proposal? That people are hearing you that your proposal or your presentation is effective? You might think Thermo Cool is the best fridge, but there's some people that for them Panasonic is the ultimate. In our case, you can waste 45 minutes talking about Thermo Cool, but meanwhile it is entering 1 ear and going out the other.
Because you didn't ask this woman from the beginning to even know that what she loves is Panasonic. So therefore you should have been showing her Panasonic fridge and deep freezer from the beginning. You're wasting your time talking about the moku. Discovery is key. So for this guy, yeah, we agreed. We're going to do some discovery work then. OK, let's skip all the other modules then. The final module is a commitment and control.
Commitment basically is getting people to commit. Sorry, forgive me. My father would have knocked me on the head if I was alive because my father told me never make a circular definition. And I said, dad, what is the circular definition? And he said the circular definition is when you try and define a word by using the word itself. And in this case, I said commitment is when you're trying to get people to commit. So forgive me.
All right, so commitment. Oh, let's say now. OK, that's the stage in the business relationship, in the conversation where you're trying to get somebody to take the next step, no matter how big or no matter how small. Once they take a small step, they are committed. So those of us who are married now, remember those relationship days. Remember one day when I was overwhelmed by love and I told my wife that she should marry me?
She said, oh boy, you're not serious. I said, what do you mean you're not serious? She said where's the ring? I said which kind of ring, like I'm serious, like I'm ready, I want to go and see your people. She said when you're serious you get a ring and then you come back. No, I got squirrel. Because in my own mind, you know, the one that is important is let me see your people. When I see your people, then yes, I'm making progress.
What? She said it must be ring anyway, where was I? So if you say will you marry me? And she said yes, she don't commit just like that or before you get to the level of will you marry me? If you say, oh that I'm having fun so far, I'd like to hang out with you more. I hope you like hanging out with me too. If she says yes, I like hanging out with you good. She don't commit small. The next step will be OK. If you like hanging out with me,
how about we go see a movie together next week Friday. If she says yes, uh huh, she don't commit. So committing small, small, small, big commitment at the end is will you marry me? She say yes, you know, career keeper for us. So that is commitment, getting somebody to take the next step. So I told him that this is also a module that we'll have to pay attention to because a lot of Nigerian business owners, lots of Nigerian salespeople who don't do this well at all.
If you don't believe me, think about it, think about your stuff or think about yourself or think about the last time you are with a tailor. You had to go and see a tailor and you told the tailor that I want the dress to be oxblood and I want you to be peplum and I want you to be backless with halter top, halter top V-neck plunge. You tell the guy, the guy takes measurement, he measure everything and then we say, oh Madam, yeah, B is 60 K.
And then he would just keep quiet. What did you do in that situation? In that situation you do, Madam was talking to Taylor. What you most likely did was in your head. You know, I started doing mathematics, 50K60K, can I afford it? Blah. And then you said what most Nigerians say, which is let me think about it. And of course, the guy said sure, no problem Madam, when you're ready. And then he will now carry the wrapper and then give it back to you.
And then you took your wrapper and then you left and he ended up doing it with somebody else who told you that he could do it for you for 35K. And in your mind, you say, oh, correct. I saved 15K. Abby, is that 15 or 25? Sure, I saved some money. Lots of business owners in Nigeria do not know how to get people to commit or how to close the deal as a tailor or as a fashion seamstress or whatever. Seamstar, Abby. OK, Seamstress is women, men is what?
Seamstar designer as a Seamstar or as a whatever, at that stage I say Madam. Yeah, B is 50K or 60K. You need to be able to ask questions to gain a commitment. I told you guys the first time that somebody pulled his country on me. OK, Well, the first time I noticed was to buy a battery. Then I must have been like around 18, maybe 18, maybe 20. I started driving Monty's car in Lagos and of course the battery was flat. So I went to go and do battery.
So the guy told me how much the B was. Then as I was thinking in my head the guy now say Bros where your Moto. I said that one. He now said Chukudi bring 2 and I said bring what? He said no your car but I said no he said bring 2. I said relax now we finish pricing. So you see how that able guy was using tactic to get me to commit. I was in my head, I was thinking, I was lost in thought. And he knew that if I leave this boy, this boy will now say, let me think about it.
And what he would do is he would leave my shop, he would drive around to the back, he catch on that bridge and he'll go and buy from somebody else. So he used a tactic to get me to commit. What he did was he used an assumptive clothes. That is where you assume that the person wants to buy. And so he said, oh boy, we're on Moto. And I said that one. He now said Chukudi bring 2 by the way, who buys 2 batteries? But he just assumed that I will buy and he assumed that I can buy 2.
So that forced me out of my mind. And then we started pricing, pricing, pricing. And then we went away with one car battery. But you can see that he used assumptive closing techniques to get me to commit. No matter how small. Where is your car? You're getting somebody to commit. If the person says this is my car, oh, you're heading in the right direction. If I must be any both thing, maybe you both treat us. This is how they teach themselves because the last time that I changed the tires on my car complete, all four of them was the same thing.
The guy just assumed that we're going ahead. The guy said is it back only or front and back? There's some other people who say where's your car? You say that bangs over there. You'll now say Chukudi bring 4 but assumptive closing techniques. So I told this guy, we need to work on your commitment and control how you close the deal. So these are the parts of the training that after the general session with people, while you and me are chatting in the DMS,
we can start paying attention to this. But then I told him when I was trying to stress all how long that see it depends on you because now we haven't started the training, but I'm ready giving you value. I'm ready telling you the prospecting list when we can start here. So I told him the rest is up to you. If I tell you prospecting list, give me 10. At the end of the day, you don't give me 10. What can, what am I supposed to do?
If I say give me 10, you only give me a list of four. What am I supposed to do? You only gave me 4. I call you, I harass you, I message you at the end of two weeks, you only give me four. Well, we'll work with the four. The thing that we see, whatever we see, we see. The one that we don't see, we don't see is up to you. And that's how I explained it to him, and we're dealing with me. It's not by force. So please, anybody who reaches out, you take my phone number.
Don't be playing all these CD games. We're mature people. I'm a sales professional and you're a mature person. Or you have to just tell me. I don't want to. That's all. We're adults. Yeah. So I told him that looks as simple as that. Take your time. As long as you decide before So, so, so, so time tonight. It's cool. We can still continue, but if you don't feel like it, just let me know. So I know. We chasing up and down.
It's not by force. So that's how we ended that conversation. And for those people who have gone ahead and paid, these are some of the things that we're going to achieve with this program that starts on the 19th of January 2026 to run until about the 31st. So what was I, what was I even trying to say anyway? I guess the main thing that I was trying to say is there are lots of scammers out there and lots of fraudsters. So, you know, Shiny Eye, it doesn't matter if you're talking to me or any other person, at the end of the day, you have a singled out, don't drop the money.
But if you're talking to me and you want to know what guarantees I can provide for you, there are no guarantees because it depends on you. My role is the doctor. I will tell you this, the medicine, if you don't take the medicine, it's up to you. So yeah. So that's it. And that's all for today. This is almost 40 minutes. So let me bring it to a close. I'm looking forward to working with those of you who signed up for the training this year starting on the 19th of January 2026.
And I'm looking forward to being a part of your business growth and your personal growth and your success story for 2026. It is my goal that anybody who passes through me in the future when they're healing them as a big boy, as a big girl, ought to be a part of that success story. That they will say, there is this guy Karishima, he was responsible for this, this, this, or he opened up my eyes to that, that, that I want to be a part of that person's success story.
And I'll do my best to make sure. That when 2026 is coming to a close or looking forward to 2027, we'll have good things to celebrate. So for those of you who are curious and reach out for other engagements, Mahala, I give my phone number at the beginning and at the end of every single episode you can call, you can send me a text message or a WhatsApp message on 08064662140. But always remember, there's no pressure. If you're nervous about something, let me know where mature individuals who sit down and we'll discuss by the end of the day, any single doubt.
Please don't give me money at all. Don't give me one error. If there's a single doubt and it's not by force. If you tell me, I know they do. I won't follow up. I won't. I won't chase you again. I won't chase you again. So yeah, that's it. I'll catch you guys some other time.