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Hello and welcome to the podcast. This is your first time listening. Welcome back. For regular listeners today, the question we're going to tackle is from LinkedIn. And the question is, what do you do when a client is nudging you to do things that are not acceptable in your organization? So what do we do when we're trying to do business with someone, We're trying to have a business relationship with someone. They're kind of hinting, they're kind of nudging, they're kind of pushing, they want us to do something.
It's against our policy, it's against our principles, it's against our ethics. It's something we would rather not do. So what do you do when you are in that situation? So that's what we are going to discuss today. Oh, by the way, let me just make this thing short. The answer basically is to call it out and discuss. I know some of you don't like that because you don't have to be confrontational or whatever, but honestly, the answer is just to call it out and discuss.
And in a couple of minutes I will show you guys how. I'll give some perspectives from a sales perspective about how we can call out this thing and have this conversation. Because to be honest, it's one of these things that will never go away whether we like it or not. You're trying to be in a relationship with someone, business relationship or personal relationship. The person is feeling it one way, you're feeling one way.
Bush are you are not saying anything. She shouldn't open her mouth. You don't open your mouth and you think everything be OK. One day things will just flare up and then you know, should be getting a shout or maybe you're the one that now be provoking. Would it provoke anyhow? So whether we like it or not, unfortunately we have to be big boys and big girls. We have to call it out. We have to discuss and we're going to figure out how we can do that.
My name is Tavishima Ayede, I'm the host of the podcast. Just in case you would, you would, in case you'd love to connect with me so you can find me over on LinkedIn. That's where I can get your questions there. Then you can also connect with me by calling, send me a text message or a WhatsApp message on 08064662140. So if you have questions, if you have comments, if you have queries or you want to suggest a collaboration, then please reach out.
Oh, by the way, need to mention that I am not Yoruba. Now my surname sounds Yoruba. Well, at least it's spelled like, you know, Yoruba name, you know, IED, but it's not IED. And that's because you know, some, you know, someone you call and then you start speaking language immediately. You know, yes, I use some few Yoruba words here and there and it's just because from about 13, I spent some time in Lagos from 13 to about let's say like 1918
and then moved to Ilay fair. So I've been around those places. I know one or two words. I do not speak the language. So you don't understand that. You know, on the podcast, we keep it nice, we keep it casual. You know, you guys feel like you know me, so you just call me. I start speaking Yoruba immediately, like, you know, slow down. I'm not Yoruba. I'm actually to you, my name is Tavi Shima. Maybe I say it too quick and some of you think my name is Tavishino or something because I
remember when I was in OAU, there's actually this guy Oyoko, what's his name? Tunde Tunde Oyoko in medicine who were both jammies together. And then he started calling me Tavishino and Hindi. Tavishino and Hindi. So that was like my hero band name. And there was this other guy, Chike, laughing gas. Then he used to call me Tave Chima, you know, As for Igbo people, you know, Chima now he's always calling me a Tave Chima.
I can't remember what the surname was. So. But yeah, those of you who call, you know, begin the flow in Yoruba, like relax, I'm not Yoruba. So I say, let me just say it because somebody actually called me a couple of moments ago. And that's how the thing was, you know, you just called and then start entering Yoruba. You know, I don't, I don't speak Yoruba. Unfortunately, I don't speak Igbo either. All right, now, yeah.
What do you do when a client is nudging you to do things that are not acceptable in your organization, not acceptable with your principles, not acceptable with your business? Now all you have to do is you just have to call it out and discuss because when you have pent up emotions, it leads to frustration and in business, and it is very, very bad. The reason why it is bad is now let's forget mental health. The reason why it's bad is because the thing messes with your money.
You cannot be making money. You cannot be entering into good business relationships. If there are some things that are, you know that they're not facilitating smooth communication. So you are not communicating well. You are not vibing. You know you're not, you know, you know, I say that for complex sales. You need to close business deals one step at a time. If we're not working in lockstep, then it is messing with our money.
So it's bad for business growth. And that's why we have to call it out and discuss because if this thing will not work, we need to break up now that none of us is heavily invested. So personal relationships, business relationships, all joined is all the same. So you're with this babe, you're with this guy and you may be kind of like each other. You think he's kind of cute, You think she's kind of sexy, she kind of fine.
And you know, maybe, maybe, maybe, but then maybe she is a Muslim man. She says, you know, she will never marry a Christian. And you know, for you, you think that Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Or maybe you're a club boy, for instance, and then you want the Muslim a chick to now, you know, come over on weekends or something. You know, whatever the issue is like this on tension. You want ten time to relationship with somebody, but somebody is nudging you to do something that is not acceptable.
Call it out and discuss. This thing will only get worse in personal relationship. Now the same thing in business. If you think you want to do business with this person, the person is asking you to do one or two things and in your mind you're clearly this thing is unethical. Now this thing is criminal, but you keep quiet. What do you think? Do you think after three months of being in business, six months, one month, one year, 2
years, three years, you think it will get any easier? You'll get harder and you run the chance that you start compromising your principles so you move on like yourself. So call it out early and discuss if this is going to be a deal breaker. Let us end it now. So you have Muslim, a chick you're liking, a club boy, he's saying come over. You need to discuss this thing early. Now when you say come over, is this what you mean?
This is what you mean. I'm sorry, it's against my religion. Then end it. So the same thing in business. Now these kinds of problems, you know, frustrations or whatever, how do I put it? OK, all kinds of business problems happen because we have on met expectations. That means I'm expecting something. There's something I want, there's something you want, but you're not getting your own share me. I'm not getting my own share this problem then undisclosed expectations.
There's something I want, but I didn't open my full mouth to tell you that look in this business relationship, this is what I want causes problem then OK, I'll I put it and Risha, unmet expectations, you know, undisclosed expectations, unrevealed expectations. There's something in my mind I'm not saying it or there's something in your mind you're not saying it. Not good for business at all. So because of that, that is the reason why those of us who are sales professionals and that's why sales training is good for every business, business person because those also are sales professionals.
We have to become very good at setting expectations in sales. When I'm trying to sell something, I have to be very good at saying what's in my mind or in my employer's mind that this is what we were expecting so that it is clear, so that tomorrow won't collect money and then you will not be shouting back and forth that I said, I said in sales we don't like I said, I said in sales, we want to collect our money, clean and then do fulfillment, hand over what we promise to you, clean and then no quarrel so that we can run and start looking for the next customer.
So in sales we have to be good at setting expectations. It is key in sales. Now we also have to become very good at eliciting expectations, getting the person to say what is on their mind for that very same reason, because selling is hard. So if I'm in front of a client, I actually want to bring up what is on their mind so that if it's an issue, let's table it now so that when I collect my money, I collect my money clean.
And when I hand over the product or the service, I hand it, you know, smooth, clean so that tomorrow I can wake up guilt free and hassle free to start chasing a new customer. Because if I'm chasing a new customer and then Madame Bigby is calling me Tavishino, the thing you delivered yesterday, you know, can you call? Can you call on this problem here? This problem, you know, nothing will be grating on my conscience, will be grating on my nerves like I'm trying to chase the next customer.
And then you're calling me over something that the money you gave me, I've already even finished spending it. I've already finished using it to go and do school fees is a mental drain. So in sales we have to get good. The one that is on my mind will table it. The one that's on your mind will table it so that by the time we're done, everything is nice and clean. Also so that I can come back later and say, ah, but I mean,
we Oh no long time, blah, blah, blah, husband. How the children. But I mean, we haven't seen you in a while or how far now and then I get a new order. Or what I mean is as if, you know, Madam Chenery, you know, I beg that man. I'm changing yourself. You know, I've been a chaser because of this disease. This disease. I beg. Do you have an I'm changing his phone number. Then you see we've gotten a referral. And then if everything is clean between Madame Bigby and Madame Chingery, I can now come back,
you know, six months later to now. I'm saying you know how far we haven't seen you. And then we get them to buy again. And that is what you call it again. I think that's just keep my mind anyway, repeat purchases. Shah, that is, ah, forgive me. This is the reason why I need the production assistance. So be writing down the proper script. Anyway, So Shah, repeat business, recurrent income, that is recurrent income, money that I can plan on, money that is,
you know, coming in every couple of months. I know that I'll see Madam Mcbee and I know that I'll see Madam Chingy re again. So recurrent income or like our tech brothers and sisters like to say maximizing customer lifetime value. There's not just enough that I collect money from what I've been paying today and when I'm changing today, but over the course of the lifetime, the business lifetime that will be together, how much money can I
get from them? So if I collect 1.5 from what I'm changing, 1.5 from what I make is good, but that 3,000,000 is not enough. If I can be collecting that 33 M from them, you know, every year is good. At least I wake up next year and I know that OK, 3,000,000 came from them last year, 3,000,000 will come from them this year. So you have to become masterful at saying the one that is in your mind, I'm pulling out the one that is in their mind.
Now you see, this is the reason why I keep saying over on the podcast that sales is a conversation. And I wish you keep it conversational. If we are forming formal, formal, formal, you think what I mean? We will come up to say what's on her mind. We need people to speak freely. So keep it conversational. We are in sales. We're trying to close the deal now. When we have closed the deal, there's a time to be official. So when you're drawing up the land documents, drawing up the warranty paper, drawing ahead,
you can lapse back into formal, formal, formal language. But for the purpose of sales, please, let's keep it conversational. I'm not saying speak pigeon, and I'm not saying be unprofessional. I'm just saying be relatable. Let people be able to talk to you and then talk to people like a reasonable somebody so that if there's something on their chest, they will come out and say, oh, ha. And then if you you have issue, you'll be able to see your own.
So that if there's a problem, we end it now, so that if Madam Minka sees me outside, she will still respect me. I will still respect her, and all is well. In fact, she might not buy from me, but she might even refer me to somebody else because she would say, you see that guy, you see that Tavishino, that he's the correct guy because I showed some character. Now, setting expectations just means we're trying to establish a few things.
We're trying to establish this is who I am. We're trying to establish this is who you are. We're trying to establish Madam Ming, that I'm talking to you. This is what your problem is. We're trying to arrive at it. Then we're also trying to figure out this out that Madam Mingly, this is how my solution can help you. Madam Mingly, this is what I hope will be able to help you achieve. If we roll this thing out and also try and pull out, Madam,
you know, what are you expecting in return? We have to pull all these things out. Now, it's not just enough to pull these things out or to put them on the table. We need to get feedback. That is why please, Nigerian business owners and salespeople get into the habit of asking people. The way that I ask it is, you know, am I correct? So when you call me up, you know, don't be shocked if you hear me say, but actually it's my default.
I'll say, oh, my name is. So based on what we've discussed, I think what we're trying to achieve is blah, blah, blah, you know, am I correct? Is that correct? That's we may ask it, some of you say is too formal, but you need to find a way of getting some feedback. So I personally, I just, I just ask, you know, am I correct? Is that correct? You know some other variant because I want to hear the person and it works because you will say, oh, Madam me based on my understanding now this and this is the problem.
Is that correct? Madam? People will say how? How can I say that's the problem? I already told you that this this is that this item that you said item is not even a problem at all. One that is painting me is item D. When Madam Ming me says that very good. You now say, oh, apologies, I'm really sorry about that. Now I always carry my pen and paper in front of her. I will scratch out item B, sure, and I'll circle item D.
She now knows that this boy is listening. I'm trying to get where she's coming from. And Shima, she will see that ah, I'm being understood. This boy is following me. So try and tease out this is who I am because in saying this is who I am. But I make him I say, oh, this is what people stand for. Oh, I'm sorry, I was actually looking for somebody else. He's good. I know you ended here. These are madamically assuming that you are watching or not.
Then you start this business relationship and therefore, months down the line, she's writing nasty reviews on the Internet and telling everybody that you're a criminal. So these are the things we're trying to pull out. This is who I am. Let the person know, then this is who you are. It is an issue to say, ah, Tavishino, your understanding of this situation actually is not correct or you missed out. This, this, this, this is what your problem is, or rather, this is my understanding of your problem.
You know, Madam, are my own points. Are we together? Am I correct? Have I missed anything? Is there something I forgot to mention? This is how my solution can help or this is how the product or service can help, you know, Does that make sense? Is this something you're looking forward to? Do you think this is practical? Do you think this is workable? Do you think this is feasible? I'm trying to get feedback. I'm trying to get hard to say what's on her mind.
Will it help you to achieve this, solve this problem? You see, like I'm trying to pull everything out, everything out so salespeople, business owners, get into the habit. All these silent, silent things will not help you. In fact, 2 episodes ago, I told you people how I was talking to your bride back as a wedding photographer. She was saying she feels my flow. She feels my flow. But me, I'm the professional. I knew that even though she was telling me with mouth that she's feeling my flow based on the concepts we were discussing for wedding photography, I knew that she actually prefers something else.
See, you are the professional here. You're the one who knows what's up. You're the one who knows what will work and what will not work. So don't be, don't be shy, don't be afraid. We should be telling our clients. We should tell our customers. Now look, based on my, you know, this is what you told me. Well, based on our professional opinion, you know, blah, blah, blah. See it? So that's what I was feeling that look, even though this babe is saying she feels my style die, by the time we shoot this wedding, they'll be quarrel.
But The thing is your boy was broke. I was broke as hell. And this wedding was in Kaduna wasn't KD. So I would have added transport, I would have added hotel, you know add hotel money but then sleep in the car. You know all these games we play, you know, book, you know book, you know 150K for hotel room, but then drive to the hotel. If you sleep in the car park will harass you. You know that's it. You say 150 K already and all these small small games.
So I was broke and I took this thing. I'm no one. Behold, the quarrel that started did not have Part 2 quarrel with her, quarrel with the groom remaining small choir would have even entered the parents because I was broke and afraid. If you're feeling like there's something nagging, please in your mind, call this thing out for your own Peace of Mind. This thing is not good for business growth. It's not now how do we call it out?
Since I spent 20 minutes, then you call it out, Call it out, very simple. I've been talking to you guys about feedback as you are establishing all the important things in this business relationship, as we're establishing all the key things, we should be asking for feedback. So, yeah, Madam Minkly, you know, what's my understanding that when we're talking about XYZ and ABC, you know, this was my own understanding, you know,
is that correct? You're trying to restate what it is that you have had or your own understanding should either say it is correct or was not correct. Now remember, they want you to do something because the question was that the client is nudging you. You know, nudging is, you know, you stylishly, you know, small, small. You're using your elbow just to be shifting somebody, you know, small, small. It's not, it's not a push.
A push is very clear. I'm pushing in this direction. It nudges. I'm using style to just, you know, move you small, small, small. You understand it. Nudge is not too obvious. All I'm saying is let us stop keeping this the under the cover. Let us bring it out, like back to the example of the Muslim man who is dating the club boy. When the boy says would you like to come over? That's a nudge. Bring it out. OK, Come over.
Abby, when you say come over, what do you mean? When I bring it out? Let this one not be a nudge. Again. Let this thing be obvious what we're talking about. So when I mean what was my understanding, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Is that correct? You hear what she has to say then you now state. Your own understanding that. OK, Madam, I'm getting the impression they actually want us to do ABC. Is that correct? You're trying to clarify.
I remember keeping polite. Remember the feedback. Is that correct? You now hear what it is that she has to say. Because sometimes you think people are nudging you to do something unethical, but really they're not. Sometimes it's only in your head, but it's good to bring it. Let's discuss it. Let's put it on the table. If it is not in my head, I want to know. Studies will not 'cause problem. In the previous podcast episode,
I spoke about how one of my clients was a troublesome person and when she said she's not paying, he was happy. He didn't want chase her again. So you know, it's like that. It is one of those problematic issues. Let's get out on the table. If it's going to be quarrel and you say, you know, do you know, I'm glad, Let me go and look for somebody else. So Madame Ming Wei, I'm getting the impression that you want us to do blah, blah, blah.
Is that correct? You hear what it is that you are, what it is that she actually has in mind. Then there's also one key question you have to ask. And this is benefit of my legal training because I'm a former lawyer turned business consultant. Now, in law, you learn quickly that there is a difference between people's positions and people's interests. Let me let that sink in. All right, Let me say one more time, in law, as a baby lawyer,
as a new lawyer, you will learn that there's a difference between people's interests and their positions. Somebody's position is the is the stand, their stand on the matter. That look, I'm not moving from this thing, this is what I say it is. Then the person's interest is the goal that they are trying to achieve. Now I learned this the hard way when I was a baby lawyer in Kano, my auger sent me to represent one matter.
So by the time I entered the court now and I opened the file, I said this is a straight for something now and this thing being caught for months. So I called the other lawyer. I said bro what's up now I say look this as I'm looking at this a rest straight for something. I'll be how you see him. You guys said I had now that he too, he thinks a very straight for something because both of us were were juniors. And So what we agreed to do was we approached the court to say that between two of us, we think that this thing can be settled and these are the terms of the settlement that the client will vacate the prom premises by so,
so, so and so. And you know, I can't remember whether I propose I will take some money. I'll be there, you know, and I can't remember sharp, but you know, amicable. So when we stood up now and we said like that, the judge was very happy, was very, very happy. He said, good, he'll be waiting to hear this kind of thing. So he told us that we'll take a date and then we'll come back and then we'll now, you know, put everything down on paper and then, you know, settle it.
And so I left and I shake the other guy's hand like, bro, you know, nice doing business with you. So we'll see now. And then I left and I thought, I've done well. Oh, boy. Hey, when I go back to my office, when I got back to my office, my organ washed me down. Seriously, The guy beginning to shout the guy vex seriously, like who gave you authority to some blah blah, The guy really hey, serial shouting. Anyway, the long and short of the story is this isn't me a good thing that I started talking about at the beginning of this podcast.
Now the my our clients and the other clients, the Yoruba people and are based in Kano and your people have this tradition of Ebola and Aburu airborne is the older person, the big person. Now borough is a smaller person. I know that Yoruba people, they don't joke with this airborne something, you know, senior is senior, you know, they carry this seniority thing on their head a lot. So the person that we're representing was the egg more was, you know, the big person within the community, well known.
And then the other person on the other side, the troublemaker was the Aboro is the smaller, the smaller person. It was a land and property something. So what was painting my client was the level of disrespect. I thought our client will be happy that I get the troublemaker of the land because what I tried to negotiate was that, you know, within a month, you know, they will leave the land and or whatnot. I was thinking that my client is looking at this thing from a business person perspective like this miscreant.
Let me get him off my land. Let me now do what I want with my land. I did not know that his position and the interests were different. His interest was that who is this miscreant? This young boy you do not respect your senior. He wanted to use a legal process to rubbish this guy. That was the interest. So as my boss was talking and I realized that OK, this is what is our play. I said OK no problem, let me go on and do what it is that I have on Dawn.
So both of them are Boro older person and sorry. Aboro younger person and Ebong older person were quite happy being in court in perpetuity. Because the younger person will stand his ground like you're older than me but you will not write me. I will stand my ground like who you be. You are not my father. And then the other person too. I was quite happy being in court because as far as he's concerned, will you shut off your your dirty rat?
You're a short rat. Like who are you? Where you came to Kano? Who are you? Am I not the one that made you? So the opposition in court and then the interest that they were representing were two separate things entirely. So I learned that very, very early and it's something I've carried into legal practice. So business consulting, sometimes people's position, they think that they are saying and then the interests, what they are trying to achieve sometimes are not the same thing.
So it's very important. Now in this case, since you think somebody's asking you to do something that is not acceptable to your organization, that might be unethical, that you are comfortable with, you will not ask the person. OK, Madam Ming PE, when you say we should do blah blah blah, what are you actually trying to achieve? That Madame Echo will say her own by the time you hear her, Especially if you're a sharp guy, creative guy, creative girl.
When you now hear what it is you want to she wants to achieve, you cannot propose that. Oh, OK, I understand now. If it's like that, we can actually achieve the same thing by going about it this other way. And they will now avoid this ethical implication, this legal implication, this whatever I be. How do you feel? And if you did a good job of getting mad, I mean, but to say what's on her mind, she'll be perfectly happy with this, your solution, because even though she doesn't think it's a big issue, she can see that you think it's a big issue for her.
So it's a big issue for you, whether on spiritual grounds or legal grounds or ethical grounds. And you know, you'll you'll make some, you make some progress. But as you propose what this alternative is, ask her, ask for feedback. What do you think about that? Would you be willing to explore that? Do you think this would achieve solve the problem? Do you need to consult with so, so, so and so you know about the solution that I proposed.
You come up with a proposal that is mutually beneficial, that it meets the client's interests and it meets your own interests. But you're only going to be able to do that because you have been able to, you have been able to, to, to, to call out and to pull out and to, to tease out everybody's expectations. So just remember when we're having this conversation, we'll try and be polite about it. You know, no need to be rude as we're saying everything we need to be asking for feedback.
Now, don't do it my own way. If you think my own way is too formal because I ask, you know, am I correct? Is that correct? Would that be correct? What do you think of you know, but anyway, treasure, that's that's just how it is. But I mean, was my understanding when we're talking that, you know, blah, blah, blah. This is the problem, this situation, you know, on my own points. Am I correct, Benny? Yes, you're correct.
OK, no problem, man. Then, Ma, I beg no vets. The thing is, as we've been talking, I'm getting the impression that you actually want us to do this, this, this. You know, Madam, I understand you correctly. As you say, I have. No, Madam, you know Madam, I'm a Christian and you know, based on Christian faith, you know I can't blah blah blah or Madam, you know that I used to be a lawyer and based on legal something, you know that we can't, you know blah blah, blah.
And she would say that can this thing be a big deal? Isn't all Nigeria know we all do this thing. Come on, why you behave like this? Are you a small boy? And then you laugh it off and then it's OK, Madam, when you say we should do it like this, actually what is the thing that you're trying to achieve is I'm proposing this so that we'll do this, we'll do this, we'll do that. Then I say, This is why subject matter expertise is really,
really important. You need to be the expert on what it is you're doing. Once you're the expert and you know what the end goal, the end goal is, you now know how to propose another solution. So oh, Madam, is it like that? You say yes, now that's what I'm trying to do, Say I should have said these things. Now if it's like that, we'll just do like this, do like this, do like this. And then this spiritual issue and this legal issue is not there again.
And I should say, I say yes, no, if you don't believe me, go and ask engineers also. And so or you want to talk with so and so, you know, like, you know, get some feedback on it. Is she on board? Does she need to think about it? Does she need to talk with somebody else or whatever and put it out there. Then you make progress, but also be prepared. Be prepared. Let me say one more time, be prepared. Be prepared for the other person to say Nope, I don't like it.
We either do this thing or we don't. In that case, it's not up to you. If it's Christianity, there's your problem. OK, Are you going to stick with your Christian principles and follow your Lord and Savior? Be prepared. If the money is sweet, be prepared to say no and walk away. If you want to stay there, you want to save God and mammal, you ought to be collecting millions and millions and just know with your own know with your with your full chest, just know what it is you're doing now.
OK, I'm here, I'm compromising my principles. I will take this money if it is illegal something because you know those of us who studied law, sometimes it can be much more touchy than other people like my wife, for instance. My wife doesn't understand appreciation. My eyes says appreciation is a bribe. If you try to appreciate my wife, she will say no, like I did my job. There's no need for appreciation. So some lawyers can be like that.
So if based on, you know, your legal training, you know, you're touching on one or two things, you know, be prepared. If the person says no, that is how we'll do it. Be ready to say, OK, no problem. And then you stand up and go. If you stay there and continue, just know that OK, my legal professional ethics, I am what's that word? What is that word? Any just not sure that you are abandoning your your legal professional ethics.
So this is what you do when someone is trying to nudge you to do things that are not acceptable in your organization. In fact, whether it is acceptable or is not acceptable when it comes to sales. This is something I tell salespeople all the time. And let me say out here, please, in sales, no assumptions. We assume nothing. Assumption will put you in trouble after you have collected money. Now say, ah, Madam, but I thought that I thought would keep you in trouble, put you in serious trouble.
We don't assume anything in sales. We bring it out. If you're assuming something, call it out. You think the other person is assuming something, call it out. Honestly, I should have saved myself stress as a young wedding photographer back then. I should have saved myself stress on that fateful occasion. I said, I've told her, look, Madam, you've been saying you feel me, you like it and this is an app. But you know, Madam, to be honest, based on the things we're saying, I'm feeling as if this is the kind of photography you need.
This is what you like. These are the kind of portrait ideas. I know what not that you like. So like, what do you think is actually what you're looking for? I should have said it honestly because she might have said, yes, this is what I want. Yes, exactly, and I tell her OK, honestly, I can't do that. These are the kinds of things I can do instead. And who knows maybe you should like me because we'll be viable. I should say Oh yeah.
Well, any I trust you if you say you can't do these bodies what you can do OK, it's no problem. Let's be going. That would have been a much better deal now for me to have stayed there have assuming something like something is is pricking my conscience. But then just because I want this on small coins, I ended up quarreling with her acquired with her husband remaining small. Her parents would have now put mouth in the matter.
Me personally, sometimes I I don't think it's worth it. And I don't know, I've not been faced with a situation where maybe 400 million is on the line and then they want me to compromise on something here there. I've not been on that situation yet, but let me say it now as a small boy, let me say it now that do the right thing when the time comes and I'm in front of, you know, 500 million, I'll, I'll let you know how it goes,
whether I compromise or I don't compromise, but you know, now these things can be anyway, so that's it. Thanks for listening. I'll catch you all some other time. Remember, if you have questions, you have comments, you have queries, you can call, send me a text message or a WhatsApp message on 08064662140. So thank you very much for your time and attention. I'll catch you all some other time. And Please remember, I'm not Yoruba.
And and you know, yeah, I like to be cool with y'all, but I'm not Yoruba. So when you pick up the phone, don't just start speaking language, you know, like that. Let's keep in English, you know, for for now. I'm, I can't follow on that Yoruba level yet. Maybe before I run for president, I have to learn how to speak one or two Nigerian languages so that campaigning will be a lot easier. All right, so that's it. Catch you guys later.